﻿<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><rss version="2.0"><channel><title>Widows_and_Ravens's Xanga</title><link>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/</link><description>Latest Xanga weblog from Widows_and_Ravens</description><language>en-us</language><ttl>60</ttl><image><title>The Weblog Community</title><url>http://s.xanga.com/images/xangalogobutton.gif</url><link>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/</link></image><item><title>FAITHWords: Faith--Yours.  Mine.  Ours.</title><link>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/639191467/faithwords-faith--yours--mine--ours/</link><guid>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/639191467/faithwords-faith--yours--mine--ours/</guid><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:10:49 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;P&gt;Here's the new topic.&amp;nbsp; Things are crazy right now, with a death in the family and everything else we've got going.&amp;nbsp; Aaach.&amp;nbsp; This one is pretty wordy, but this week we're engaging in a lot of instructive activities.&amp;nbsp; So we're trying to balance.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center&gt;FAITH: Yours. Mine. Ours.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;There are basically two ways for us to look at the issue of faith.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Through the eyes of our cultural context, that is Americans in the early 21&lt;SUP&gt;st&lt;/SUP&gt; century, or through the eyes of the Biblical context, which is to view it through the narrative of the people of God over the ages.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;There are necessary things we must know about both.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;First, the culture in which we are raised will always, always have an effect on what we think about everything.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;That cannot be undone.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;However, the danger is when it is the deciding factor of how we view things.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Second, the Biblical context has a two-fold nature; 1) the historical context for the information itself, ie, when the Bible talks about places and people, it means those places and those people 2) the broader, spiritual application, ie, when the Bible talks about places and people, it means to make reference to the situation, so that we may learn from that situation, and know how to react when we are in that particular situation ourselves.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;So, what I would like to look at is a set of dichotomies, opposite comparisons, that look at our cultural view of faith, and the Biblical view of faith.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;These dichotomies are:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Acceptable v. Required, Individual v. Communal, and Private v. Persuasive.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;U&gt;Acceptable v. Required&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;This is really the argument of Unnecessary v. Necessary.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;The cultural view of &amp;#8216;faith is acceptable&amp;#8217;, that is, &amp;#8216;It&amp;#8217;s OK to have one, if you want to, but I&amp;#8217;m not going to make you have one if you don&amp;#8217;t want to.&amp;#8217;, is built primarily on arrogance and ignorance.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Saying that faith is acceptable is saying that no faith is also acceptable, and ultimately is judging the fact that one has a faith at all.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;What are the connotations, the feelings behind a word like acceptable?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;They are derogatory.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;You &lt;I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;can&lt;/I&gt; do that, but I don&amp;#8217;t see why you would.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;So really, what is being said in more culturally &amp;#8216;sensitive&amp;#8217; terms is, you don&amp;#8217;t really &lt;I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;need&lt;/I&gt; one, but if you want one, we can&amp;#8217;t make fun of you to your face for it.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Secondly, the idea that a person doesn&amp;#8217;t hold a faith is just ridiculous.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;I&amp;#8217;m sure you&amp;#8217;ve heard it all before, but let us look at if its even possible not to hold a faith.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Everyone has a faith in something.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Christians believe in Christ, sure, but humanists have faith that humanity can achieve its own ends.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Agnostics believe that something is out there somewhere, and have faith that we can make it without that something until we have to interact with that something&amp;#8230;at some point.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Even atheists believe that what they believe is true.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;They have faith in their faith.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;So calling faith &amp;#8216;acceptable&amp;#8217; is really a way of saying it&amp;#8217;s unnecessary.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;However, we know this not to be the case.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Not only is a faith a default position&amp;#8212;everybody has one of some kind or another&amp;#8212;it is required to be a healthy human being.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;You have to have one to be able to function correctly, and I&amp;#8217;m not even talking about the normal examples of having faith in chairs and stop lights and mailmen and my internet provider.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;I&amp;#8217;m talking about a belief about the outer realms, about the spiritual world.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;There have been studies, which I can&amp;#8217;t find on the internet but I&amp;#8217;ve read about and so am going to quote even without all the proof, that have shown that people with a firm belief, one way or another, about the spiritual realm live happier, healthier lives.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Everyone needs a way of viewing the un-viewable. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;But, &lt;I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;we&lt;/I&gt; know that beyond it being a basic psychological need, there is a true imperative behind which decision we make in faith.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;How do we know this? Hebrews 11:6: &lt;B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"&gt;And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.&lt;/B&gt;, and add that to John 14:&lt;SPAN class=sup&gt;6:&lt;B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;/B&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"&gt;Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. &lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/B&gt;These two combined equal a need for a faith, and where that faith is meant to be placed.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;These are just two very immediate examples out of the great narrative of faith that is the Bible, with the nature of a chosen people, a chosen God and the faith passed between the two.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;U&gt;Individual v. Communal&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;The story of the Bible is one that starts with a community, is about a community throughout, and then ends with a community.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;First there is the triune God, then there is the addition of His creation and a chosen group of them to be His people, and then the final pinnacle of those who follow Christ and what happens with them at the end of all time.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Community, community, community.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;But how do we know that faith is meant to be communal?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Well, there is the fact that for all of the generations up to Jesus, there was a central Temple where ALL, catch that ALL, of the Hebrews went to worship YHWH.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;This was the ultimate pinnacle of community.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;All of a single people group was expected to worship their special God in one place, at least once a year&amp;#8212;Passover.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;For a New Testament example of the nature of faith being communal, you have the example of&amp;#8230;the New Testament.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Of what is the majority of New Testament composed?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Letters to&amp;#8230;that&amp;#8217;s right&amp;#8230;put it together&amp;#8230;THE COMMUNITY!&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;All of the faith issues addressed by Paul, Peter, John and the other Epistle writers were meant to be addressed in public, communal settings.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Yes, they related to personal issues of piety or purity, individual responses to the gospel or to false teaching, but they were addressed to the community as a whole.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;How is the community handling the people within it?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;It was, and is, the responsibility of the community to maintain a standard to which each individual must hold.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;That is why the letters were addressed to communities, about individual necessity.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;This is not the way our culture tells us we should handle our faith.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;To whom does faith apply in our culture?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;The individual.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;You do things your way, I&amp;#8217;ll do things mine.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Don&amp;#8217;t tell me how you do your faith, because I don&amp;#8217;t want you telling me how I should do my faith.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Even if I don&amp;#8217;t have a faith&amp;#8212;I know, I know&amp;#8212;but even if I say I don&amp;#8217;t have a faith, you can&amp;#8217;t tell me about the faith that you have, because that might mean you are trying to make me believe in your faith.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Faith is something that we are to pursue in the quiet of our own home, in our own private life, and we are not to share that experience.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Don&amp;#8217;t think that has influenced your faith?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Think about this:&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;when was the last time you looked someone in the eye while singing a worship song at church?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;When was the last time you gave someone a hug while praying?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;When was the last time you felt really, really embarrassed for touching or bumping or whatevering someone in church?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;This culture of individuality has pervaded even how we act when we gather together, supposedly in the name of community worship.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;It&amp;#8217;s true the nature of our individual relationship with God is without a doubt of primary importance.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;We cannot have a community of believers if we don&amp;#8217;t have individual believers.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;But neither can we call ourselves a community if when we gather together we spend all of that time in our individual pursuits.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;There is a time, a place, and a necessity for each.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;We cannot isolate our belief to the individual.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;U&gt;Private v. Persuasive&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;So, out of that individualism in faith grows the idea of a &amp;#8216;private&amp;#8217; faith.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;A private faith is one that is non-vocal.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;It doesn&amp;#8217;t talk about itself or communicate the things about itself that are different or necessary or essential, or anything at all.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;A private faith is one which grows quiet due to the individual nature of its practice.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;This is the way that we are expected to behave with our faith in the American culture.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;#8216;I believe in God, sure, I just don&amp;#8217;t go around tootin&amp;#8217; my horn about it.&amp;#8217;&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Pretty typical Joe-on-the-street response.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;And this translates into any type of communication about your faith, including demonstrative, or obvious actions but non-vocal, communication.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;If we are out serving people, and it is well known that we are Christians, whether we are doing it for the sake of evangelization or not, that will be the assumption.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;And that will be looked down on.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Because faith should be private.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;And obviously, there is a private aspect to our faith.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;We have a quiet element: we don&amp;#8217;t want to go out confessing on the street corners every sin we&amp;#8217;ve committed, or jump up in inappropriate situations and start preaching the gospel&amp;#8212;like at the library or in the middle of a funeral.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;There is a time for silence.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;However, there is also this, Matthew 28: 19:&lt;B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"&gt; Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/B&gt;Seems pretty clear.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;It is not only part of our faith to be vocal, but is a Jesus-commanded part of our faith to be vocal, in a way that produces disciples.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;So, there are two sides to this persuasive vocality.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;We can&amp;#8217;t just go be vocal, and not produce anything.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;That&amp;#8217;s just annoying, and is probably a big reason why people in the West hate Christians.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;And the other side of that is we can&amp;#8217;t swallow everything we know, and not demonstrate or speak about it when the time comes.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Both of those are necessary: restraint and participation.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Because we are meant to have a persuasive faith, a faith that shows others what love is, and why they should have it.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;People should see what our lives look like, and know that we have a love for one another that is unnatural, and that it is because we have a love for God.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;That kind of stuff persuades people.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;U&gt;So, what&amp;#8217;s my point.&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;My point is this.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;The culture in which we live seems to want to remove a lot of what it means to have a faith that is life changing.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;The culture sends messages about it being ok, but unnecessary to have a faith.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;The culture sends messages about how what&amp;#8217;s ok for you, isn&amp;#8217;t necessarily what I need&amp;#8212;there is no group dynamic to faith, we don&amp;#8217;t have to participate in anything together.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;The culture sends messages about how your faith should stay quiet&amp;#8212;keep that to yourself, the culture seems to say. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;But a life-changing faith knows what it is based on.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;A life-changing faith knows who it&amp;#8217;s for.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;A life-changing faith knows it has to share, be shared in, and communicate itself around the world.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Because it changes lives.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;That&amp;#8217;s what makes it life changing.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Read the Bible.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;That&amp;#8217;s what our faith looks like.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Not some mamby-pamby thing that doesn&amp;#8217;t mean anything to anybody&amp;#8212;or even worse can mean anything to anybody.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Rather, it is a faith with a central core of necessity and community and communication and need and love and change.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;SPAN class=sup&gt;Hebrews 11:1: &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"&gt;Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. &lt;/B&gt;That is life changing faith.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description><comments>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/639191467/faithwords-faith--yours--mine--ours/#firstcomment</comments></item><item><title>FAITHWords: Love--Not I have but I AM.</title><link>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/638056838/faithwords-love--not-i-have-but-i-am/</link><guid>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/638056838/faithwords-love--not-i-have-but-i-am/</guid><pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:36:30 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;P&gt;So, for those that know me, I'M BACK!&amp;nbsp; For those that are joining, it's probably because you are interested in catching up with the talks you've missed or want to review from SecurityCrew meetings, and to you I say--WELCOME IN, SO THAT NEXT TIME I CAN SAY WELCOME BACK!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My intention with this blog, now that I'm writing regular stuff for my youth group meetings, will be to post up the talks I've been giving at SecurityCrew so that my super-smart (and ridiculously attractive) friends can take the discussion deeper, and my students can begin to learn what theological debate looks like.&amp;nbsp; The exchange of ideas in a loving setting can be so fun, informative, and beautiful, I want my students to be a part of that.&amp;nbsp; So let's get going.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'll be posting the talks about a week behind, so that we're talking through the week about what we just met about.&amp;nbsp; I think.&amp;nbsp; That should work, right?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have fun with this.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pax&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center&gt;&lt;B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;U&gt;LOVE: Not I have, but I AM.&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"&gt;POPULAR DEFINITION:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"&gt;What do you think people believe about love?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"&gt;What are some common words that are associated with love?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Love is a word that gets used interchangeably with a bunch of other words that are maybe associated with love, but aren’t really love.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Like is one.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;If people really, really like something, they say they love it.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;I do it all the time.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;I LOVE Chipotle.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;I don’t really, because I don’t currently have a relationship with Chipotle, in which we invest time and energy into one another, and spend valuable hours together deciding what it means for us to be in this relationship.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;No, I go there, I eat a burrito, and then I leave.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;That’s not love, that is super intense enjoyment.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Sex is another one that people often confuse with love.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Ever hear someone say ‘making love’?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Does that mean that two people are actually producing more love?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;What if those two people don’t even know each other?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;What if those two people actually hate each other, but are having sex?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;It happens.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Is that making love? &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Emotional attachment is another one.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Sometimes people have a very strong emotional attachment to one another, and they think this is love.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Sometimes it is.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Sometimes, it’s just a really strong emotional attachment.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;How do we know the difference?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;The primary way is how much sacrifice is involved with the emotional attachment.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;How do I get that definition?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;All of these definitions involve getting something from someone else to make your life better.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;It’s all about what someone can give you, or someone has for you, or something that is good, and you want in your life.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;U&gt;BIBLICAL DEFINITION:&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;I think the essential definition for Love in the Bible comes from 1 John 4:8--&lt;U&gt;…God is love.&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;So, if God is love, then what does that mean?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;What do we know about God?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;I could spend the next four hundred eternities talking about the attributes of God, and therefore the nature of love, but there is one thing I really want to focus in on.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Love involves sacrifice.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;How do I know this?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;God is love.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;What is the one most important thing, beyond creating the world, that God has done inside human history?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;That’s right, sacrificing His Son, whom He loved, sacrificing Himself, who He was, out of love.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;It was out of righteousness, because sin had to be punished, it was out of holiness because people cannot be in relationship with God and have sin in their lives, true.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;But it was first and foremost out of love, because God &lt;I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;wanted&lt;/I&gt; that relationship, God &lt;I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;wanted&lt;/I&gt; our sins wiped out, so that He could allow us to come near Him.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;That means that love defines what has occurred between God and man, from the beginning to the end.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Even when it didn’t seem that way.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Because love is sacrifice.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;And we know that because God is love, and He loved us through the ultimate sacrifice.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;And the very next two verses say just that: 1 John 4: 9-10 --&lt;U&gt;This &lt;B&gt;is&lt;/B&gt; how &lt;B&gt;God&lt;/B&gt; showed his &lt;B&gt;love&lt;/B&gt; among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. This &lt;B&gt;is&lt;/B&gt; &lt;B&gt;love&lt;/B&gt;: not that we &lt;B&gt;love&lt;/B&gt;d &lt;B&gt;God&lt;/B&gt;, but that he &lt;B&gt;love&lt;/B&gt;d us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;U&gt;CONCLUSIONS:&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;So, what’s my point?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;My point is that, for most of the people in the world love is something that you acquire.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;It’s something that you give or get, or someone has for you, or that you need to get from them.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;In Bible, that just isn’t the case.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Love is a person--Christ, God, the Holy Spirit—what’s called the Godhead, the Trinity.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;When we know what God is like, we know what love is like.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;And the big thing that God did for us, while we were still sinners and haters of God, was sacrificed Himself on the cross.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Gave His life, the life of His Son, so that people can come to Him and love Him.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;So love isn’t about ‘I have’ or ‘I need’.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;It’s about I AM, that is God.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description><comments>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/638056838/faithwords-love--not-i-have-but-i-am/#firstcomment</comments></item><item><title>Miracles: Finger or Snot?</title><link>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/620005762/miracles-finger-or-snot/</link><guid>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/620005762/miracles-finger-or-snot/</guid><pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:44:30 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;(After a hiatus, time spent rethinking the purpose and style of this blog and achieving some goals in meatspace, Widows_and_Ravens is back with a new entry!)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Pretty much everyone in orthodox Christianity (a generous assumption here on my part) believes in miracles.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;And, in that group that believe in miracles, pretty much everyone has the same definition of a miracle.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;It sounds something like this: a point in time and space where God’s love and sovereignty come together to right a wrong, bring justice, create a better situation, etc…for the &lt;?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /&gt;kingdom of God.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;If it doesn’t sound quite like that, it sounds something similar, and means something about the same.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;As far as I can tell.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;However, when it comes to how miracles happen (leaving behind the discussion of why for another time), there seem to be two differing viewpoints.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Maybe there are more, but they seem to fall into these two categories, broadly speaking.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;First, there is the view that God, in God’s transcendence of all things created, intervenes on the behalf of God’s people, either upon supplication or of God’s own decision. This view is best visualized in the painting of the Sistine Chapel Ceiling, that famous picture where the finger of God is reaching down to Adam (who, for some reason is hanging out naked on some shellfish—that’s not even kosher).&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Hence, it will be called the Finger Theory.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;God’s miracles are an intervention of God from outside the space-time continuum, and are achieved through external manipulation of events, from an overarching view of time, space, and the created beings within each.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Second, there is the view that God is living in God’s kingdom, and God’s miracles emanate from that very organic relationship.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;These manipulations of creation are not from the outside in.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Rather, they are from the inside out, and are an outflow of the constant interaction that God has with God’s kingdom residents.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;The best analogy I can think of for this outflow model is that miracles are God’s snot.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;This will be called the Snot Theory. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Now, why snot?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Because, in the human body, snot (or mucus to be more medically correct) is produced without any purposed input, unlike urine or feces, which require a purposeful consumption of either a fluid or a solid (plus, I’d probably get a lot more argument if I were to call miracles God’s Poop).&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;It is a healing byproduct of the body.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;It is used to change things for the better and make things good again.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;I realize it gets a bad wrap, has a bad reputation, and can even make some people puke.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;But I think it fits.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;God’s miracles are a byproduct of God’s being.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Being in relationship with creation, in relationship with time and space, in relationship (perhaps most of all) with God’s Kingdom.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Snot is a byproduct of a human body, which is made of cells, which are made of carbon.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Therefore, I can say, in one sense at least, that Humans are carbon.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;God is love.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Why can’t God’s byproducts be miracles?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;What else would the by product of a being made of Love be? Because in one sense, if God is love, I can say God is made of love.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Look at the ministry of Jesus.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;His time was spent primarily in teaching people about the Kingdom of God.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;His healing, weather stopping, and feeding miracles all came as a byproduct of his relationship with the people around Him, in connection with the fact that He loved them, and had the sovereign position of being able to pronounce people healed and forgiven.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;It looks like this: &lt;U&gt;(God’s Love + God’s Sovereignty) &lt;/U&gt;= Miracles&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;God’s Kingdom&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;God’s love and sovereignty divided amongst God’s Kingdom will, inevitably, wreak miracles.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;That is the nature of our relationship to God—with God—in God.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;Now, this doesn’t deflate the importance or greatness of miracles.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;And, though it might take a few steps toward de-mystifying them (in some people’s minds), it certainly doesn’t have to.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Look at what this means!&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;We are part of the Kingdom, therefore, we are part of the everyday interaction of God with God’s creation, and therefore part of the working of miracles.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;God doesn’t just reach down and manipulate things every now and then, God’s doing it all the time!&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Miracles don’t have to be something we expect now and again, if we get the timing right, and God is listening, and can spare some time.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Rather, they can be something we can expect, as things get harder, and we are drawn deeper and deeper in our relationship with Christ.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;The cogs of the kingdom working to make it right.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;God’s Snot coming to flush out the enemy’s pollen nodules in the nose of our lives. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;It makes sense that a God who wants relationship, on a personal level, would be in that relationship.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Right?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;All the time?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;So, therefore, it makes sense that, if all things are working together for the good of those found in the Kingdom of God, that God would be doing that work, right?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;But that isn’t the main point is it?&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;Miracles are God’s Snot.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;They are the natural outgrowth of God’s love and work in our lives.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;God’s own awesome Snot.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;But we don’t worship the Snot.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;We worship the God.&lt;SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;I need a bigger hanky.&lt;/P&gt;</description><comments>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/620005762/miracles-finger-or-snot/#firstcomment</comments></item><item><title>Liberals v. Conservatives: (Misnamed) Dichotomies</title><link>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/617937907/liberals-v-conservatives-misnamed-dichotomies/</link><guid>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/617937907/liberals-v-conservatives-misnamed-dichotomies/</guid><pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:56:05 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;P&gt;I am a DBB.&amp;nbsp; That is, a Democratic Background Believer.&amp;nbsp; That is right, I was saved out of my life of being a Democrat, and brought to the light.&amp;nbsp; I was given the gift Jesus's eternal life, and rightness before the Father, by the prompting of the Holy Spirit.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;At least, that is what my Republican friends would like to think.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The truth is, I did discover the reality that believing in Jesus brought about a change in my life.&amp;nbsp; Women became more an equal, but lost their right, in my eyes, to abort the child growing in their womb.&amp;nbsp; The poor became more of a concern of mine, but not just as something a governmental program should be dealing with, but rather an example of the systemic evils present in our society.&amp;nbsp; So, yes, my life changed, but my views on politics and society seemed to deepen, rather than relent.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And honestly, even though I know I differ quite a lot, on quite a few issues with my Republican friends, I believe that they would agree that indeed, these are very important things.&amp;nbsp; These issues are issues which have relevance to us as a people, as the Kingdom of God, and as workers-out of that Kingdom.&amp;nbsp; The problem, however, lies in the lables 'Conservative' and 'Liberal'.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;These labels are bandied about in a way that makes it not only aprop pos to ask the questions which relate to the deliniation of people into these categories, it has become regular practice.&amp;nbsp; Young Earth Creationist?&amp;nbsp; Conservative.&amp;nbsp; Care about Social Justice?&amp;nbsp; Liberal.&amp;nbsp; Think that Johnny Cash was a Christian?&amp;nbsp; We're still deliberating.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think the issue lies in words we are using.&amp;nbsp; In my mixing with Conservatives (yikes, I'm doing it, but it advances my point) have shown me that at the base and core of it all, we care about the same things--almost.&amp;nbsp; We just go about it in different ways.&amp;nbsp; Conservatives seem to focus primarily on the authority nature of both God and Scripture, as well as the categorization of the world and Kingdom, and being seperate.&amp;nbsp; Liberals (notice I'm not using we--also advancing my point) focus on Love as being the primary aspect of God's revelation to God's people, using inclusion and the need to care as their modus operandi for getting that message out.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What I do not want to do is discuss the pitfalls of being on either side of this equation.&amp;nbsp; Rather, I would like to point out that the equation itself is non-calculable (to overuse the metaphor).&amp;nbsp; Instead, I believe that the entire labeling system should be scrapped, and we should see that we are, again, on a spectrum.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Those who currently see themselves as liberal work more from a relational point of view.&amp;nbsp; God's main goal in Jesus was to form relationship with mankind.&amp;nbsp; Our main goal as the Kingdom is to get people into that relationship, and to understand all things through the love and grace of the cross.&amp;nbsp; Those thinking of themselves as Conservative work from a more propositional standpoint.&amp;nbsp; They say that God is sovereign, and God's statements are true.&amp;nbsp; Therefore, all must repent and believe in them.&amp;nbsp; The grace of God is something that is, has happened, is happening.&amp;nbsp; We must believe, and move forward from there.&amp;nbsp; We must be different from the world, because we have seen the truth.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Obviously, both camps are right.&amp;nbsp; It is the method of approach that is different.&amp;nbsp; The Propositionalists must realize that indeed, relationship is a very, very important aspect of the Kingdom of God--we must be in one with both God and the Kingdom.&amp;nbsp; The Relationalists must realize that there are truths which are immutable--things which just are, must just be believed, even if most of the time they are witout our experience.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is the truth of where the church is moving.&amp;nbsp; I believe we are seeing a true swing of the focus of the Kingdom's people.&amp;nbsp;It is clear&amp;nbsp;that relation, to one another and God, are becoming more and more important to the&amp;nbsp;modern Church.&amp;nbsp;However, what need not happen is a complete pendulum, resulting in another swing back in another generation.&amp;nbsp; What needs to happen is that we must reconcile both sides of the spectrum, and move to live in a place where we can all relate to one another and God&amp;nbsp;based on the propositions of God.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;</description><comments>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/617937907/liberals-v-conservatives-misnamed-dichotomies/#firstcomment</comments></item><item><title>Education v. Inspiration: (False) Dichotomies</title><link>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/616754159/education-v-inspiration-false-dichotomies/</link><guid>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/616754159/education-v-inspiration-false-dichotomies/</guid><pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:14:42 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;P&gt;Coming from rural Missouri, I am what you might consider a country boy.&amp;nbsp; Unless you knew me, then you might call me a 'college boy'.&amp;nbsp; Of course, to most, these are mutual exclusive.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The most violent place we see this divide is perhaps in the ecclesiatical community (violent and ecclesiatical--two words which all to often are crossed and never should be).&amp;nbsp; There are those on the 'top' who, in the eyes of those on the 'bottom' "learn from books".&amp;nbsp; Then, there are those on the 'bottom' who, in the eyes of those on the 'top' "resist education".&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The issue arises from a false dichotomy drawn between 'learning' and 'inspiration'.&amp;nbsp; Learning, in this context, is considered anything which can be taught by a teacher, or read in a book.&amp;nbsp; Something which is conveyed in a human way, from human to human.&amp;nbsp; Inspiration, however, is that which is given in a divine way, most often from God to man, therefore being implying a holy knowledge.&amp;nbsp; Prophecy, words of knowledge, intercessory prayers, and spontaneous worship often fall in this category.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The problem comes from each of the two groups claiming propriety to one or the other of these groups of knowledge.&amp;nbsp; 'Academics' becomes both a title of pride and a slur, as does 'Pentecostal', given those who claim exclusive knowledge of the 'inspired' often&amp;nbsp;label them selves in this manner.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What happens in an environment such as this is dangerous.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;For those academics who shun inspiration as being&amp;nbsp;unnecessary or non-intelligent (or even anti-intelligent) find themselves&amp;nbsp;locked away in an ivory tower as it were, looking at issues from a perspective which not only isolates them from those&amp;nbsp;for&amp;nbsp;whom they should be doing their research, those whom they would presumedly educate.&amp;nbsp; The issues become dry, and have little or no life beyond the search for an answer.&amp;nbsp; The Bible is especially dangerous to view in this way.&amp;nbsp; The&amp;nbsp;Pharisees are a great example of this.&amp;nbsp;For those that are claiming inspiration is the only way to study, the problem is also isolation, but of a different kind.&amp;nbsp; Ideas become more and more wild, as each and every whim becomes considered with more and more weight.&amp;nbsp; Things which, previously, would have been seen as clearly ridiculous become canonical.&amp;nbsp; Another, diffenrent set of rules emerge, and most often, a single 'most inspired' person rises to the top.&amp;nbsp; Weird practices become&amp;nbsp;ritual, and hereseys canonical.&amp;nbsp; I would site both&amp;nbsp;the Essenes and Gnostics as good examples of this.&amp;nbsp; Mysticism without grounding in study.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And that is the crux of the issue.&amp;nbsp; There is no exclusion in the search of knowledge from the Bible.&amp;nbsp; Study is not the only way, nor is inspiration.&amp;nbsp; Rather, I believe that there is a spectrum.&amp;nbsp; There are people who engage&amp;nbsp;with the Bible in a most meaningful way through study, they find that with more and more factual information, more and more&amp;nbsp;scientific, literary, etc...information, they find more and more of God.&amp;nbsp; There are those as well that find an inspiring experience with&amp;nbsp;God most fulfilling, reveling in times of spontaneous reading, or times when the Bible comes alight to them not through study but seemingly from nowhere, via God's&amp;nbsp;speaking to them.&amp;nbsp; Neither of these people are wrong.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, they must &lt;EM&gt;stay on the spectrum&lt;/EM&gt;!&amp;nbsp; Those who study the Bible must remember that there needs to be space in their life where God can still speak, against all odds and outside of the facts.&amp;nbsp; Again, those who enjoy an experience must remember that only through study, can&amp;nbsp;we stay grounded in the Bible.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Remember, Paul was Saul, the most Jewish of all Jews and knowledgeable of the law.&amp;nbsp; He also had a miraculous experience, and continued to walk in miracle ministry.&amp;nbsp; His grounding in&amp;nbsp;his knowledge of God made it possible for&amp;nbsp;him to experience God's miracles more totally, and&amp;nbsp;God's miracles brought his knowledge of the law to life.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description><comments>http://widows-and-ravens.xanga.com/616754159/education-v-inspiration-false-dichotomies/#firstcomment</comments></item></channel></rss>